[Yum-devel] kernel module plugins

[Jack Neely]

On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 02:55:38PM -0500, James Antill wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 14:39 -0500, seth vidal wrote:
> > On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 20:37 +0100, Tim Lauridsen wrote:
> > > There is a couple of plugins for handling kernel modules in yum-utils
> > > Based on the discussion in
> > > 
> > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=482893
> > > 
> > > and others
> > > there there some problem with the plugins and the 3 part repos 
> > > containing kernel module packages.
> > > 
> > > So the big question is do we keep these plugins in yum utils or do we 
> > > rip them out and let the repos
> > > containing kernel modules make there own plugins if they need one.
> > > 
> > > Let me know what you think.
> > > 
> > 
> > oooo - I like the idea of ripping them out. Boy, I like that a lot.
> > 
> > I'm not sure we can get away with it. But I REALLY like the idea.
> > 
> > pros and cons?
> 
>  Well we needed "yum-kmod" for RHEL/CentOS 5 ... and I haven't heard
> that we won't need it for version 6.
>  Obviously we could put it in a separate package, but then we could do
> that for most of yum-utils and if it wasn't for the fact that Fedora
> reviews take 666 days I'd be happy with that.
>  I think it's crappy that people changed what "kmod" meant, and didn't
> tell anyone here before or after making that change ... so that might be
> a good reason to rm the plugin.
> 
>  On the whole I'd be happy if someone deleted them all, but I reserve
> the right to feel kinder next week :)
> 

Red Hat uses the kabi stuff which is not what the fedorakmod package was
designed to handle and therefore its patched.  

        https://svn.linux.ncsu.edu/svn/clspackages/rpms/yum-utils/EL5/kmod-kabi.patch

Its never been upstream and I'm not sure how well it works.  I'd like to
propose that if RHEL wants to use the kabi method that a plugin
espeically for that method be written/used.

I'm using kmods heavily to support OpenAFS, OpenVM Tools, and EMC
certififed qlogic drivers.  However, I have no problem removing
fedorakmod, but I seem to have never gotten commit access back after the
great move to baseurl.

The latest kmod stuff is in RPMFusion land.  I guess I'll have to break
down and subscribe to their lists to participate in any kernel module
packaging standards.  Gah, I wrote this thing to solve the 2 "corner
cases" that RPMFusion documents.  (Which are pretty major when
supporting a few thousand machines with kernel modules.)  Sigh, I'm
getting bitter in my old age.

Jack

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